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would you use a 9mm in a zombie invasion.

No, I prefer shotguns.
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yes other than the fact that they're useless.
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Postby Kommando » Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:43 pm

I personally go with a shotgun. It deals with all zombies within a 10 meter radiu, and gets a nice stock to swing with. Some a clip fed, some you place in each shell. The shell ones are the best as they can be fired as you load, giving you time to work. But they do have the disavantages: Like unable to load shell. Shaking hands are a major problem. But there is one type of shotgun that easliy outdoes the rest: Auto Assualt 12 Automatic Shotgun (AA12). The fastest, longest ranged shotgun in the world.

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Postby The Crazy Clone! » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:50 pm

go My Little penises!
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Postby IVhorseman » Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:02 pm

From The Zombie Survival Guide (which i keep a copy of within arm reach of my bed):
Solanum converts the brain of human victims into a specialized organ that needs no oxygen, water, or food to survive, and it renders body tissues toxic, significantly slowing the decomposition rate. It then begins to control movement of the body, resulting in a zombie. The downside of this is that the new brain has nothing more than bare instinct to feed and motor skills.


that said, the only way to take down a zombie is to destroy the nerve center, the brain.

shotguns have a wide spread, and can easily hit a target from far away. however, individual pellets from a shotgun are weak in killing power. While a good shotgun could take down an elephant from a good ways away, this would only be because the elephant feels the blow of every single pellet, sending it into writhing pain. zombies, on the other hand, do not feel. you'd need a clean head shot to take one down, and even that would need to be done from close enough to take out the brain. from a pure ballistic perspective, you'd be better off with a 9mm pistol.
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Postby Bleep » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:57 am

So, what I'm reading into your posts with you saying is that a Zombie can only be killed by a head shot, because the brain is the only living organism in the Zombie's body. A shotgun is too weak in individual pellet power to kill the Zombie, but a 9mm pistol is strong enough.

Using symbolic logic we can reduce that down to:

All Zombies are shotgun immune organisms
All Zombies are 9mm pistol killed-by organisms
.: Therefore, all 9mm pistols are greater than all shotguns.

I would contest this idea that a 9mm pistol is the best. After all, caliber is what counts correct? In that case an assault rifle or a submachine gun would be best because they have caliber and speed of fire, plus range.

Which is better, a single shot from a pistol, or a whole lotta shots from an AK-47 Kalashnikov.
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Postby Rody » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:12 pm

he probably means to say that it will be easier to kill a zombie with a 9mm than a shotgun.
to actually hit it and all and reloading etc.
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Postby pesgores » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:09 pm

I would still prefer to call My Little penises.
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Postby Rody » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:12 pm

he might be in a traffic jam or not willing to help you, I'd go for more reliable tactics
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Postby pesgores » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:15 pm

Then...summon only his power. After all, that is the option on the poll.
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Postby Almighty Benny » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:37 pm

Bleep wrote:Using symbolic logic we can reduce that down to:

All Zombies are shotgun immune organisms
All Zombies are 9mm pistol killed-by organisms
.: Therefore, all 9mm pistols are greater than all shotguns.


Nice syllogism attempt Bleep, but this argument falls apart in the first statement. Nowhere did he say that zombies are shotgun immune, he simply said that:

IVhorseman wrote:zombies, on the other hand, do not feel. you'd need a clean head shot to take one down, and even that would need to be done from close enough to take out the brain.


So it isn't that a zombie cannot be killed by a shotgun, but that it is more difficult to kill a zombie with a shotgun than with a 9mm pistol when not at close range.

This is how your argument should look:

Most shotguns are not effective for killing Zombies at long range
All 9mm pistols are effective for killing Zombies at either close or long range
∴ For killing Zombies, 9mm pistols are more effective than most shotguns.

In order to use your original argument, you would at least have to say that all 9mm pistols are greater than all shotguns for killing Zombies.

And since I'm already being a dick, I might as well also point out that you don't need to say "therefore" after using the therefore symbol.
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Postby IVhorseman » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:48 pm

and don't forget that shotguns STILL have amazing stopping power. while a shotgun blast is likely to not kill a zombie, it's more or less guaranteed to knock it off it's feet. the amount of time it takes to stand is more than enough to GTFO
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Postby Scorpia » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:08 pm

Kommando wrote:
But there is one type of shotgun that easliy outdoes the rest: Auto Assualt 12 Automatic Shotgun (AA12). The fastest, longest ranged shotgun in the world.

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Obviously better than a 9mm.

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Postby IVhorseman » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:16 pm

again, for killing human beings or animals, shotguns are best for making things dead. unfortunately, the undead are ALREADY dead.

not to mention, automatic weapons are extremely innacurate. not because the individual shots are hard to hit, but because the recoil's so strong, AND it gives a false sense of confidence. not only that, but it's a massive waste of ammo.
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Postby Bleep » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:59 pm

I stand corrected. To address the still standing relevant points:

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.: - Means therefore. I didn't think that others new the symbol so I included the word as well.

Shotguns and Pistols - You have to remember however that although a pistol is short range, most pistols will have a larger range than a shotgun. You are correct though that this only refers to zombies.

@ IVhorseman
Shotgun knockback - True, although which would you prefer a dead zombie or a living zombie on the ground?

Ammo waste - BrikWars doesn't count ammo, remember?
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Postby IVhorseman » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:19 am

Bleep wrote:most pistols will have a larger range than a shotgun.


video games have a horrible reputation of perpetuating this stereotype. shotguns are actually DESIGNED to be used at longer ranges. the buckshot is simply so you have more area in which you can spray a target with pellets. after all, they're primarily hunting weapons.

and back to your counterpoint, i'd much prefer not having to deal with a zombie anymore. whether dead or on the floor, whichever one eliminates the threat i'm fine with.

and i ain't talking brikwars here. i'm talking about 4srs zombie apocalypse.
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Postby pesgores » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:07 pm

I think it will be more likely the world end in 21 December 2012 than a zombie attack.

No that i believe that.
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