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Postby *CRAZYHORSE* » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:16 pm

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Postby Warhead » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:50 pm

Definition, Synonyms from Answers.com+ wrote:
Chivalry: chiv·al·ry (shĭv'əl-rē)

n., pl., -ries.
1. The medieval system, principles, and customs of knighthood.
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a. The qualities idealized by knighthood, such as bravery, courtesy, honor, and gallantry toward women.
b. A manifestation of any of these qualities.
3. A group of knights or gallant gentlemen.
[Middle English chivalrie, from Old French chevalerie, from chevalier, knight. See chevalier.]
4. Not lying when she askes if it's in the right hole.
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Postby Tuefish » Thu May 12, 2011 2:16 pm

Found a very convincing argument on The art of manliness;
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Wilders, Mujaheddin and Marines

Lemme tell you a secret. The only difference between these three groups rests on one word: Chivalry.

"Men are pigs" or so Tim Allen tells us. I agree. At bottom, all men are animals. So are women. We are hard-wired for certain reactions and that hard-wiring can be shown both empirically in human society and in terms of (dare I say it?) evolution. Lets take a look at the biological aspect first.

Whether you believe in evolution or not, note that chimpanzees and humans have some 96 % commonality in DNA. So, presumably, similarities in their actions and ours can tell us what is "natural" in us.

Now that people are actually studying chimpanzees without Margaret Meade-like blinders on, they are discovering all sorts of interesting "customs." Chimpanzee males hunt and kill "lesser" monkeys for both food and sport. Chimpanzee males are the primary defense against predators. And chimpanzee males participate in a process that has been termed "the concubine ritual."

Male chimpanzees on the hunt that come upon unaccompanied females gesture for them to follow back to the pack's center. If the female refuses, the male beats her up. This process continues until she returns to camp.

Welcome to the basis of spousal abuse. Study after study show that men are pre-conditioned to brutalize women. It stimulates the limbic system, it is sexually arousing and it's probably healthy for us. No wonder such conditions can be found in any society that is in the process of breakdown or in which the society has automatic denigration of females. From South African blacks that use ointments to simulate snuggle to the Taliban whipping women for wearing shoes that click to wilders stripping women in Central Park, the core is the commonality of brutalization of women. Between the chimps and the commonality, what it tells us is that brutalization of women is the natural condition of human existence.

The only thing that "decodes" that hard-wiring is socialization. Socialization is all about taming the barbarian, yes, "the animal," within. Socialization is about teaching that "might" does not automatically make "right" and making girls cry, whether by dipping their pig-tails in the ink-well or hitting them in the face, may be "fun" but "it's not the right thing to do."

Furthermore, it has to be the "right kind" of socialization. In virtually every major society in the world, save one, a woman's security depends upon the willingness of her male relatives to defend her. Women are beaten on the street in virtually every phallic country. In Sub-Saharan Africa, women are considered chattel. In China, female babies are aborted or drowned in ponds to make way for boys. Indeed, the humorous aspect of listening to women (and it seems to be led by women) denigrate "Western Civilization" is that it is only in cultures that derive from the West (or pre-Islamic Persian) in which such women would be permitted to speak at all. In every other society they would be whipped off the stage, snuggled or stoned to death.

The factor in Western Civilization that prevents men from denigrating women is "chivalry." Chivalry, in reference to women, evolved from "courtliness", or the social process, initially found only among the upper class, of wooing a prospective bride (or a casual lay.) Courtliness, in turn, evolved from the reintroduction of the Cult of Mary, creating a female role model that said, in effect, "women have value."

Over time, chivalry came to mean that women were "better", in selected (and realistic) ways, then men. Women were prettier, cleaner, nicer and sweeter than men. Anyone who has ever dealt with a poorly socialized teenage female may have doubts about this reality, but the social custom had two effects. One was to reduce the brutalization of females through the basic "you can't hit girls" training. The other was to raise the self-esteem (and apparently cleanliness and "sweetness") of females .

In societies that practice chivalric customs, females have self-worth. In virtually all other societies, their only worth is as brood mares. And it was chivalry, and only chivalry, that, for centuries, prevented the sort of horrors that occurred in Central Park during the "wildings" and that are the day to day lot of women in countries from the Orange to the Oxus.

Compare Cary Grant to Eminem. What's the difference? They're both white males. They were or are both "role models" to their culture. They're both considered male sex symbols. One word: Chivalry. (Okay, two, chivalry and a modicum of brains in Grant's case.)

Again, what's funny is that feminists really hate that word too. To them being "put on a pedestal" is the equivalent of being bound and chained in a dungeon. When in fact it's exactly the opposite. Being bound and chained and put in a dungeon is what happens when you eliminate chivalry.

And chivalry and bravery are brothers in arms. It is possible to be brave and evil, this is a an excellent description of the mujaheddin. But it is nearly impossible to be cowardly and chivalric. The control mechanisms are practically identical. Both require a belief that it is worth sacrificing immediate gain (sex, survival) for some longer-term or higher good.

We're beginning to rediscover the virtue of bravery. As we look at the brutalization of the women of Afghanistan, and look at the breakdowns in our own society, it is high time to rediscover the worth of chivalry.

Because it's a fine line between warrior and barbarian.


Now, obviously it's a bit biased, but I don't think that it's possible to find an unbiased argument.
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Postby enders_shadow » Thu May 12, 2011 7:16 pm

.....no. :roll:
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Postby Zupponn » Thu May 12, 2011 10:25 pm

Silverdream wrote:But I'm complimenting them. By telling them about how hot they are and how I wanna bone them I'm expressing myself and keeping them confident.

And creeping them out.
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Postby Pwnerade » Fri May 13, 2011 2:09 am

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That is how I feel about a lot of Silverdream's posts.
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Postby Pwnerade » Sat May 14, 2011 6:21 am

If you think the point of trolling is to make everyove think you're a complete moron, then you have achieved a :ftw:.
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Postby Natalya » Fri May 20, 2011 9:59 pm

Zupponn wrote:
Silverdream wrote:But I'm complimenting them. By telling them about how hot they are and how I wanna bone them I'm expressing myself and keeping them confident.

And creeping them out.


I bet you don't even talk to girls. I bet you just act like a jerk around them and piss them off, and maybe the extremely stupid ones like you but they probably had distant or abusive fathers and so they'll take any dumb fuck they can get because they have no self esteem.

I'm not sure who I hate more. You, or girls who date guys like you.
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Postby stubby » Fri May 20, 2011 11:27 pm

Tuefish wrote:Found a very convincing argument on The art of manliness;
Art of Manliness wrote:
Wilders, Mujaheddin and Marines

Lemme tell you a secret. The only difference between these three groups rests on one word: Chivalry.

"Men are pigs" or so Tim Allen tells us. blah blah blah tl;dr

The difference between the groups described by this idiot is that, while they each reduce women to objects, at least the chivalrous ones think you're a valuable object. If you want to be thought of as an actual person on the other hand, then none of them are going to do you much good.
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Postby Natalya » Sat May 21, 2011 12:15 am

stubby wrote:
Tuefish wrote:Found a very convincing argument on The art of manliness;
Art of Manliness wrote:
Wilders, Mujaheddin and Marines

Lemme tell you a secret. The only difference between these three groups rests on one word: Chivalry.

"Men are pigs" or so Tim Allen tells us. blah blah blah tl;dr

The difference between the groups described by this idiot is that, while they each reduce women to objects, at least the chivalrous ones think you're a valuable object. If you want to be thought of as an actual person on the other hand, then none of them are going to do you much good.
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Postby Zupponn » Sat May 21, 2011 1:42 am

Natalya wrote:
Zupponn wrote:
Silverdream wrote:But I'm complimenting them. By telling them about how hot they are and how I wanna bone them I'm expressing myself and keeping them confident.

And creeping them out.


I bet you don't even talk to girls. I bet you just act like a jerk around them and piss them off, and maybe the extremely stupid ones like you but they probably had distant or abusive fathers and so they'll take any dumb fuck they can get because they have no self esteem.

I'm not sure who I hate more. You, or girls who date guys like you.

Wait, are you yelling at me or Silverdream?
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Postby Warhead » Sat May 21, 2011 3:34 am

Does that line work Stubby?.. I guess it must. And you know what they say, what ever it takes to get the job done, eh? Eh? :warhead: You sly dog you.

I don't know who you hate more either Natalya, but when it comes to Wumin I'm going for the trophy! :wink: :lol:
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Postby *CRAZYHORSE* » Sat May 21, 2011 9:17 am

Would you even do the blue waffle girl? :shock:
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