Which rules are better? 2001, or 2005?

[Dr. X]

We all know the 2001 rules are better. I play them, and I've printed them out and put them in a binder. I mean, the 2001 rules have seperate stats for leik every weapon! How could you resist that? And look at all the complicatedness. Nice. I also scribble in my binder a bunch with new weapon stats for other weapons.

But what do you guys think? Are the dummed-down 2005 rules better for YOU?

[IVhorseman]

I actually like the dumbed down 2005 rules better, because everything's easily categorized, as opposed to having to look EVERYTHING up in a rulebook. sure, there's 24 different kinds of guns, but what do you do when that 25th one comes around? LOLWTF MOAR STATS.

the thing is, it's impossible to make every gun because they're all different slightly. for 2001's specific stats, they're just different enough to force you to memorize everything. for 2005's more general stats, they're similar enough so that it's one stat for everything. and besides, an AK-47 will kill you just as dead as an M-16. is it really necessary to differentiate them?

[spacessj]

I like the 2001 ones cause there are so may bits to choose from

[Dr. X]

I actually like the dumbed down 2005 rules better, because everything's easily categorized, as opposed to having to look EVERYTHING up in a rulebook. sure, there's 24 different kinds of guns, but what do you do when that 25th one comes around? LOLWTF MOAR STATS.

the thing is, it's impossible to make every gun because they're all different slightly. for 2001's specific stats, they're just different enough to force you to memorize everything. for 2005's more general stats, they're similar enough so that it's one stat for everything. and besides, an AK-47 will kill you just as dead as an M-16. is it really necessary to differentiate them?

You just memorize all the stats possible and give your troops somewhat similar armament. Also, machine guns all have the same stats btw.

[Almighty Benny]

I like the 2005 rules because I'm much less a fan of the "Wargaming", and much more a fan of the "playing with LEGOs" side of BrikWars.

[IVhorseman]

they do? last i checked, there were gyro rifles and all sorts of weird machine guns.

[ace121]

2001 rules pwn. Reaons:

6. I have every one of them memorized
7. It provides a lot more material than '05
8. Only a pansy couldn't handle the complexity of '01. Brikwars ain't for pansies!

I liked it more when only brain surgeons could play. A lot less idiots who do cheap shit moves like 'Realistic Nukes'.

[spacessj]

they do? last i checked, there were gyro rifles and all sorts of weird machine guns.

those were weapon types, but you can sum it up in 1 rule: more damage--> higher UR

[Dr. X]

2001 rules pwn. Reaons:

6. I have every one of them memorized
7. It provides a lot more material than '05
8. Only a pansy couldn't handle the complexity of '01. Brikwars ain't for pansies!

I liked it more when only brain surgeons could play. A lot less idiots who do cheap shit moves like 'Realistic Nukes'.

Ditto. MEMORIZE PEEPAL!!

[piltogg]

2001 pwns, more is better.

[Blitzen]

I disagree.

The reason I looked for the BrikWars rules was that I had a castle, and my brother wanted to wargame me and stage an invasion. He's kind of dull*, and doesn't like reading, so I wanted the simplest rules possible. I also haven't read the 2001 rules yet because they're so damn long and not in html.

*He dropped out of university and went to the dumbest college ever.

[Dr. X]

I disagree.

The reason I looked for the BrikWars rules was that I had a castle, and my brother wanted to wargame me and stage an invasion. He's kind of dull*, and doesn't like reading, so I wanted the simplest rules possible. I also haven't read the 2001 rules yet because they're so damn long and not in html.

*He dropped out of university and went to the dumbest college ever.

Well, when I play with most of my friends, I pretty much HAVE to use 2005, because they aren't dumb but they just have played Heroscape too much to even care about a huge awesome rulebook. But with myself, my brother, and 2 of my friends, we are teh nerds of 2001. Oh yeah baby.

And why the HELL would anyone VOLUNTARILY drop out of a UNIVERSITY for a DUMBEST COLLEGE EVAR? Aah don' geet at.

[Blitzen]

I think they kicked him out. :/

[Dr. X]

I think they kicked him out. :/

What did he do, set fire to a textbook or something?

[Blitzen]

No, he failed stuff.