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Postby birdman » Tue May 05, 2009 3:44 pm

IVhorseman wrote:
birdman wrote:many are of the impression that it is superior, just too in-depth. think of 2001 being to 2005 what rogue trader was to 4th edition.


4th edition is awesome and you know it (seriously, I just came back from the most brutal delve in my life).

Oh also (Rayhawk, listen up), they plopped gnomes AND bards into PHB 2, so Büttrøck can live again.


um, i was talking about 40k.
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Postby tahthing » Tue May 05, 2009 3:45 pm

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More Supplemental Things

Postby knight508 » Tue May 05, 2009 3:56 pm

Here's a selection of the units (again, 2001 Edition) available in the addendum to this supplement, which will be added within the next week or so.

Clone Trooper
    Move: 4"
    Armor: 1d6+7
    Skill: 1d6
    Cost: 9 CP (14 CP w/ equipment)
    Specialty: none
    Ratio: None (troop)
    Equipment:
    +[Blaster Carbine |Range 14"|UR 3(6)|Damage 1d6+1]+
    +[Clone Armor (+1d6 AV)]+

Rebel Officer
    Move: 5"
    Armor: 8
    Skill: 1d6+1
    Cost: 10 CP (16 CP w/ equipment)
    Specialty: Leadership (+2 CP)
    Ratio: 1 for every 5 troops
    Equipment:
    +[Blaster Carbine |Range 14"|UR 3(6)|Damage 1d6+1]+
    +[Macrobinoculars]+

Imperial Engineer
    Move: 5"
    Armor: 8
    Skill: 1d6
    Cost: 9 CP (19 CP w/ equipment)
    Specialty: Mechanikal Ability
    Ration: 1 per Vehicle
    Equipment:
    +[Blaster Pistol |Range 12"|UR 3(6)|Damage 1d6]+
    +[Mechanik's Tools]+
    +[MkI Explosive |Range --|UR 3|Damage 1d10+3 exp]+
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Re: More Supplemental Things

Postby pesgores » Thu May 07, 2009 3:54 pm

knight508 wrote:Clone Trooper

Armor: 1d6+7



WTF Isn't that too overpowered?
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Postby tahthing » Thu May 07, 2009 3:55 pm

yer especialy for a mass unit!
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Overpowered?

Postby knight508 » Thu May 07, 2009 4:03 pm

pesgores wrote:WTF Isn't that too overpowered?



TL+1 is the basic Trooper Armor. 6+1 = 7. +1d6 for armor = 1d6+7. Slightly overpowered, yes, but I prefer to use 2005 Minifig stats with 2001 rules and Specialties.
That actually is one of my biggest peeves of 2001 ed. All Units and Platforms are just too hard to kill![/quote]
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Postby Theblackdog » Thu May 07, 2009 5:30 pm

Actually, there are no D6es involved. The AV is just seven. Also: when you're using TL6 units with high AVs you generally want to equip them with either Gyro rifles (same stats as 2005 rifles but with 1D6+3 damage) or Impact rifles (UR 5, Rng 12", Dmg 2D6). My houserules for anti-infantry weapons include a (+TL-3) modifier, so that standardized weapons will increase in power to match increasing AVs.
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You gotta think about _armor_!

Postby knight508 » Fri May 08, 2009 4:18 pm

The 1d6 is for their armor.
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Postby Rayhawk » Sat May 09, 2009 4:00 am

birdman wrote:
IVhorseman wrote:
birdman wrote:many are of the impression that it is superior, just too in-depth. think of 2001 being to 2005 what rogue trader was to 4th edition.

4th edition is awesome and you know it (seriously, I just came back from the most brutal delve in my life).

Oh also (Rayhawk, listen up), they plopped gnomes AND bards into PHB 2, so Büttrøck can live again.

um, i was talking about 40k.

What's sad is that even though I knew what Rogue Trader was, I still thought you were talking about D&D4e.

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Re: You gotta think about _armor_!

Postby Theblackdog » Sat May 09, 2009 6:31 am

knight508 wrote:The 1d6 is for their armor.

It still needs to go. If I read this supplement right your armor is 7+1D6, but your weapons' damage is 1D6+1. Do you realize exactly how hard it will be to kill someone with this much armor, using a 1D6+1 gun? You would need to roll a six, and then roll again and get something almost as good. I would consider my army roughly equivalent to clone troopers, and they have 7 armor (without a die roll) and guns with 1D6+3 damage. The chance of a 1D6+3 gun killing a trooper with AV 7 is exactly 1/2.
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Stat Cards

Postby knight508 » Mon May 11, 2009 4:59 pm

I'm uploading some stat cards for this supplement. I've been noticing that the stat cards on this forum can be a little *koff koff*... lacking. So, naturally, I've decided to spice up this forum a little bit by adding some stat cards relating to Star Wars. Whaddya think?
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Re: Chaos has Risen

Postby Tarren » Tue May 12, 2009 3:55 pm

knight508 wrote:This entire thread is rapidly dissolving into chaos. The point of this was to act as as sounding board for a new supplement, not an infantile argumentation arena. :evil:


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Re: You gotta think about _armor_!

Postby Rayhawk » Wed May 13, 2009 12:53 am

Theblackdog wrote:It still needs to go. If I read this supplement right your armor is 7+1D6, but your weapons' damage is 1D6+1. Do you realize exactly how hard it will be to kill someone with this much armor, using a 1D6+1 gun? You would need to roll a six, and then roll again and get something almost as good. I would consider my army roughly equivalent to clone troopers, and they have 7 armor (without a die roll) and guns with 1D6+3 damage. The chance of a 1D6+3 gun killing a trooper with AV 7 is exactly 1/2.

I must not have written this section of the rulebook very clearly, because I read this same argument over and over again. If someone has so much armor that it's incredibly difficult to kill him with one shot... use two. Little guns do just as much damage as a big gun, if you have enough of them.

I think it was one of the things that made the 2001 games a lot more interesting, tactically; you had to coordinate attacks a lot more, since troops working alone had less ability to be effective.
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Re: You gotta think about _armor_!

Postby Theblackdog » Wed May 13, 2009 6:07 am

Rayhawk wrote:
Theblackdog wrote:It still needs to go. If I read this supplement right your armor is 7+1D6, but your weapons' damage is 1D6+1. Do you realize exactly how hard it will be to kill someone with this much armor, using a 1D6+1 gun? You would need to roll a six, and then roll again and get something almost as good. I would consider my army roughly equivalent to clone troopers, and they have 7 armor (without a die roll) and guns with 1D6+3 damage. The chance of a 1D6+3 gun killing a trooper with AV 7 is exactly 1/2.

I must not have written this section of the rulebook very clearly, because I read this same argument over and over again. If someone has so much armor that it's incredibly difficult to kill him with one shot... use two. Little guns do just as much damage as a big gun, if you have enough of them.

I think it was one of the things that made the 2001 games a lot more interesting, tactically; you had to coordinate attacks a lot more, since troops working alone had less ability to be effective.


Really? I just used higher-tech weapons to offset the high-tech armor.
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