So apparently, stating your opinion, then defending your opinion when attacked means fucking yourself over?
Damn, those presidential candidates must be very fucked indeed.
I'm judging the dad by his act here. He is not part of a larger group of people who do exactly what he did here. I'd be surprised if this community of yours has remained so elusive if they did the same thing he did and got the same amount of attention.
If you respect the law, you want others to respect it too.
I'm pretty sure you refer to the stuff others gave you as 'my stuff' too.
It doesn't matter that the context of the example is different because all I'm trying to prove is that demeaning language during an act of destruction only adds to the victim's frustration, and creating frustration with someone is never a good thing. Frustrated people do not think logically and can become very dangerous indeed, and there is also no limit to frustration. You can keep stacking it up until the tower, which never gets too high to build on, topples. In both cases, the victim would be angry, and making nasty comments would only serve to make him more angry.
Whether he cleaned it up or not is irrelevant. At that point, he's giving the wrong example.
If you only hear one side of the tale, experience with human nature makes it extremely likely the tale is biased towards the side of the speaker, and extremely unlikely it is the other way around. Keep this in the back of your head whenever you tell people of for instance this 'discussion'. If I'm making assumptions, I'm basing them off likeliness.
All you're saying with that rhetorical question of yours is ''see, you wouldn't do what she did, she's wrong'. Yeah, she was. So was he.
You're putting the impact a Facebook message to a limited group of friends on the same level of 'ruining your dignity' as a Youtube video with over 100 million views that caused far more of an uproar and will be remembered far longer?
Stating what you did a few pages back, is not a personal attack. It is a mere fact, which you could have avoided by not crying about how you're misunderstood. Also, now that we're talking about a few pages back, people were telling you to keep personal insults to yourself too, the only difference is, I didn't mention it because I don't care. Right now though, I'm going to ask you to stop being so hypocritical about 'personal insults'.
If he didn't think the gun would serve as a better tool to intimidate her than anything else he could have come up with, he wouldn't have used a gun and wasted 7 precious expensive (as he said) bullets on it just to get the job done.
I am not a racist. Whenever someone says something racist in my vicinity, I won't get angry at them, but I've explained many times to such people why racism is dumb. That doesn't mean I can't judge people, then put them into a category of 'dumb Southerners', a group of people that definitely exists, without anyone saying it is all-encompassing.
Destroying something is an act of violence. Guns are objects of violence. I already pointed this isn't always the case and I am hardly an anti-gun freak, but it is a fact they were created to do violence in the first place as opposed to many other items. A gun will alway carry more authority and be more intimidating than gravity or a car / bulldozer no matter how you were brought up simply because it is a far more powerful tool (for humans).
The daughter is likely a bitch indeed and shouldn't take her laptop for granted. Hence why he could've taken / given it away. He didn't have to be aggressive about it and set a bad example of how to deal with problems in a mature way.
We've already been over this. Simply providing your kids with a lot of material wealth doesn't earn you respect. I think this whole situation made that clear enough.
I never complained about you carrying a grudge against me or whatever, you're the one who jumped that wagon. If I appear rude, it's because I'm probably trying to tell you I'm not interested in having a proper argument with you (which I already did literally before you decided you just wouldn't quit attempting to enforce your opinion upon me). Does that mean I never have proper arguments with people? No, in fact, I do. I've had arguments about suicide, football and art with people who had a whole different opinion than me and never got into trouble with them. Why? Because I respect them and they respect me, and neither of us felt the need to push our opinions unto each other, which doesn't mean it can't be interesting to see why the other guy thinks what he thinks. The thing is, you're simply not a very interesting person to talk to and I'm getting nothing from 'sharing views' with you, which is the reason I'm not bothered at all about following the 'proper code.' You've made some remarks about how you think my personality is like too (assumption?), but I'm not complaining about them because I don't care what you think of me. Whether you think positively or negatively about me does not affect me at all.
Finally, let me get this straight.
I do not
care about your opinion. It does not
affect me. Does that mean I think you can't have an opinion? No. When I state my opinion, like I did in the beginning of this thread, without addressing anyone directly, I am not trying to enforce it upon others. When you attack my opinion, you are doing just that, and I will of course defend it. Why? Because the only thing I need is self-justification and I've been brought up to know you can't have an opinion simply because that's what you want to think, you need to be able to explain it. I also know whatever opinion you have, there will always be people who agree to you, and people who disagree to you, so that's hardly something you can evaluate your opinion by. I'm not so insecure I need other people's permission to feel I am right if I feel my arguments work. I was revolted by this parent's behavior and I gave you my reasons why, and there's nothing you can do to change that or make me see it your way
I also don't care if you have a different opinion, or do not change it based on my opinion, because I'm not trying to convince you. Changing people's opinion (over the internet) is nigh impossible anyway, and not something I'm interested in even if it were easy again, because it does not affect me. All I require, is that I am able to back up my own opinion with arguments, to know I'm saying something based on thought and not just will. I do not
need other people's permission to feel secure about myself or my opinion, unlike you apparently. That is for example the reason I'm not replying to Zahru, Zupponn or Keldoclock right now because they simply stated their opinion, which I don't care for (which is not the same as 'do not respect) and don't think they should change to mine for me to feel better about myself, so I'm not replying to them, as they didn't address me directly either and were apparently completely fine with just stating their opinions without requiring people to agree with them. In the end, it all comes down to the fact you're wasting your goddamn time trying to prove something to me I couldn't care less about what you think of it, because it doesn't affect me in the slightest and I do not think you are interesting enough that you would share views with me that would actually be interesting to know
If you need someone to talk to to fill up your grey life and spare time, find someone else who does think you're interesting and can learn something from you. I don't think you think my views are interesting or worth knowing, you just want to convince me you're right and I'm wrong, which is why you replied to me and no one else in the first place. Part of your motivation also seems to be simply riling me up, perhaps to talk me into a ban-worthy offense? Well either way, it's not working
As for Eagle, you're completely right. He has the right to be mad at his daughter and I would be mad in his stead as well. My problem with him is that he didn't handle his anger in a mature way or set a good example for his child, because he did exactly what she did and worse: making their problems public, putting them on the internet. He is not trying to achieve making her a better person, the only thing he is achieving is enforcing his own will. How will the daughter realize her own behavior was wrong when she sees her dad doing exactly the same thing and worse in response? Parenting should not be limited to a case of action - reaction because mistakes can and have been avoided on beforehand, in my opinion.