2001 vehicle rules: Question

Post by **Tzan** » Fri May 23, 2008 4:14 pm

Oh I know. But I am from the Boston area and back in the day I was quite the rules lawyer with Avalon Hill wargames (board games for those who don't know).

Post by **Bonn-o-Tron** » Fri May 23, 2008 7:28 pm

I love Avalon Hill! RISK 2210 ftw!

Post by **Tzan** » Fri May 23, 2008 7:55 pm

Hasbro is a demon. A demon which has devoured companies and exploited their names.

Risk is a Parker Brothers game, PB now owned by Hasbro.
Milton Bradley, owned by Hasbro.
Avalon Hill makers of games like SquadLeader, owned by Hasbro.

Avalon Hill doesn't exist anymore, its out of business. Computers killed the cardboard. AH is just a logo that Hasbro slaps onto boxes to make them look like real wargames.

So Hasbro wants a new version of Risk or Axis and Allies they slap an Avalon Hill logo on it and call it a real wargame.

Those games are fun, I like them. But abusing the AH logo is just not right.

Post by **Bonn-o-Tron** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:28 pm

Dammit Hasbro. They're like the EA Games of board games.

Post by **Rayhawk** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:18 pm

Believe it or not, as a longtime toy professional, although I've never worked for Hasbro, I like Hasbro a lot. They do good business.

A lot of industry-leading companies that go around buying other companies just do it to exploit every last resource out of them and then toss away the withered husks, but Hasbro has a pretty good record of rescuing properties that are about to fail and disappear forever, and finding ways to preserve them and make them profitable enough to stay alive.

Naturally there has to be some compromise in that, because if the products were healthy in their original versions they wouldn't have been failing in the first place, but I think Hasbro does a decent job of trying to preserve the spirit of the source material as much as market constraints allow, much more so than a lot of other companies I could name.

Post by **Tzan** » Fri May 23, 2008 10:02 pm

When I first heard of AH being owned by Hasbro I thought it was a good thing. As you say rescueing the games from the trash bin. They liscence AH board games to Multiman Publishing and they are the ones carrying on the AH tradition.

I was mostly just reacting to Hasbro's abuse of the AH logo on pretty much anything that isn't a real AH type game. I mean Risk + AH is absurd.

So in true brikwarrior fashion if I needed to react, I needed to over act.

Post by **youaredoome0** » Sat May 24, 2008 8:53 am

Tzan wrote:Hey! I resemble that remark.

Hey! That's my family's joke!