A.D.D. (Anti- Dimmie- Devices)

[IVhorseman]

hey, it's unlikely, but possible. if the undead ever rose, i'd be alive.

[*CRAZYHORSE*]

Just that everybody know pelets aren't the only ammo shotguns take. They also take shotgun slugs.

the one to the right
as you can see it´s kinda big and IMO even more effective against zombies then the 9mm pistol. (except for the reloading and ammo)
This slug has a massive inpact and can kill a deer sized like creature easely with one shot anywhere in the body and is as accurate as a riffle. If this slug will hit a zombie in his soft head (what is easely done with a good scope that is recomended if you use slugs.) the head would just be gone for most of the part. even if you hit the body it will just rip a chunk out of it. The shotgun slug can be fired at long distances (this is where the pellets also fail.) and may still hit the traget precisely where you aim at 120 meter or 131 yards.
So what about this? this makes the shotgun more effective so now I think we need to rethink about it and also what about a box off nades nice and handy when you´r trapped on a roof!!??

[IVhorseman]

what part about "only headshots" is so hard to understand? any chunk of shrapnel (from anything, including a grenade) that hits a zombie is completely innefective unless the brain itself is destroyed. in fact, even a decapitated zombie head is still able to bite, and is still a (minor) threat. ripping a chunk out of the torso means nothing to a zombie.

reloading and ammo for the slugs is difficult, but you're going to get massive recoil from launching something that big. without proper training and practice, you're likely to get knocked flat on your ass, and may even break your arm(s).

[*CRAZYHORSE*]

what part about "only headshots" is so hard to understand? any chunk of shrapnel (from anything, including a grenade) that hits a zombie is completely innefective unless the brain itself is destroyed. in fact, even a decapitated zombie head is still able to bite, and is still a (minor) threat. ripping a chunk out of the torso means nothing to a zombie.

reloading and ammo for the slugs is difficult, but you're going to get massive recoil from launching something that big. without proper training and practice, you're likely to get knocked flat on your ass, and may even break your arm(s).

Even if you hit the chest it would probably throw off the head and if you shoot it in the head it wouldn´t be decapitaded but just gone and in pieces and if you hit it in the body knocking a big chunk out off it if you hit the spine it woulod fall over and move atlest twice ass slow and you can do that at 120 meters range and I also said except for the relaoding. If you hit a zombie in the torso or limbs it doesn'"t "doesn't harm" them it doesn't hurt them but devenetly harms them if you shoot 2 slugs at the legs he coulnd't walk then two at his arms and he is useless and also if you hit the spine (what is verry easy with a slug from the front or the back) the brain couldn't send any signalls to the body parts under the place you hit him because the spine is also part of the central nerv system (whel not the spine but the nervs in it i meen) so if you break there neck they couldn't do anything that just look around and just open their mouths.

And what about a mounted 20mm gun I know it isn't mobile but it just shreds the zombies to pieces.
so IMO there are more ways to kill a zombie then just the headshot you could cut/shred/blow/slice them to pieces or small chunks or you could make them uselless (not actual killing them) by braeking the neck or servering all limbs or just the standerd headshot.

Now I don't know that much about zombies so if there is a reason why they would still contineu if you break there neck then please telll me.

and what about that box of grenades just blow them to a hundred pieces. great for big crouwds until they get close or acid what effect whould that have on zombies. And for meely wepon I would use a katana isntead of a machety it's a bit long so you couldn't use it fot that much other stuff but it is longer then a macheti so you can keep the zombies at a distance and is also verry light and the most sharp kind of sword there is. with a katana you can kut a human being in half (if your a really good sword fighter a normal person couldn't do that with out lost of practise) so with zombiues that would me almost no problem. and you can aslo stabb with it not that it is affective against zombies.

[Tzan]

And what about a mounted 20mm gun

I worked at a tradeshow exhibit company a while back and actually got to lay my hands on a GE 20mm gattling gun. We had to make a rolling stand for it. I got to measure the attachment points, and design the metal frame.

So... if zombies ever attacked that show hall, I'm sure the GE booth would have killed many-a-zombie. Assuming that they had some ammo, electric power supply, trigger. Although the recoil would send it rolling backwards down the aisle, since it was on wheels. It was pointed up at about a 20 degree angle, so the zombies would have to be within 10 feet, or maybe hanging from the ceiling.

[IVhorseman]

any piece of the body connected to the brain is active. if the spine is snapped, everything below it is eliminated, true, but everything ABOVE is still deadly. all a zombie needs is one bite to transfer the disease (communicable by contact of any bodily fluid, such as saliva or blood), and if you give it even that, you're dead.

if you broke the neck, everything BELOW the neck would be eliminated, including arms, legs, etc. but it can still bite. if you were to accidentially stand close enough to a zombie's head (which would no longer moan since the vocal cords are all shot to hell. so there goes any warning of it's presence), it could still very easily bite your ankle, and will do anything in it's power to do so (even dragging itself by the teeth, if need be).

and i think you're a bit confused as to what a grenade does. a grenade is a simple exploding device, which sends hundreds of bits of torn metal several feet in every direction, along with a concussion effect that screws up a human's interstitial fluids, and causes death by damage to the internal organs. a zombie no longer has these fluids (and yes, all the blood coagulates). with the concussion blast gone, and the fact that loud noises and bright lights will not distract a zombie (their brains are only simple enough for one thing: food), the only hope you have is that one of the metal chunks just happens to strike the zombie in the head, with enough force to actually go deep enough to destroy the brain. you'd take out zombies that are no farther than 3 feet away from the blast, which is TERRIBLY ineffective.

for melee weapons you're on the right track, but remember that you need a HEAD shot to kill, and zombies who were chopped in half can still crawl at you. the optimal place to strike is just above the jawline, or at about eye-level. a machete would probably be the better tool for non-zombie related issues when dealing with a zombie-appocalypse, so you've still got that. and stabbing can be suprisingly effective against zombies, but is not recommended. a head is a small target to stab, but if you've got it, it's over.

[Almighty Benny]

Well said, IV, you beat me to it.
Crazyhorse, go buy the book "The Ultimate Zombie Survival Guide", it's a fascinating and hilarious read. It's actually written by Mel Brooks' (Airplane, Young Frankenstein, Spaceballs) son, Max Brooks (Who spent several years as a writer for Saturday Night Live). It's an actual survival manual illustrating the best methods for surviving a Zombie apocalypse.

If you enjoy that and feel like knowing as much about Zombies as IV and I, you'd need to go ahead and read "World War Z", which is even better.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/the-ultimate-survival-guide-a-civil-defense-announcement/4124405231

The one thing about this video that I don't like is that they recommend assault rifles. There are several reasons why assault rifles are a bad choice. Firstly, it's very easy to put it in automatic mode and Rambo your way into a Zombie horde. Max suggests that people with an automatic weapon tend to feel braver than they should, putting themselves in unnecessary danger. This video assumes that the average civilian would know enough about assault rifles to leave them in semi automatic mode. Another thing is that assault rifles are loud. Zombies rely mostly on their sense of smell for navigation and detection of prey, but this does not mean they won't hear you firing an AR from a great distance. All it takes is for you to alert one zombie, and it's moan will set off a chain reaction, summoning every Zombie in the surrounding area. Silencers are recommended when using any firearm to fight the living dead. Also, ammo is difficult to come by, especially when everyone is in the same situation as you. It's best to use a melee weapon for general combat, only pulling out a gun when absolutely necessary.

Edit: Success!

[Stormzen]

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Fail.

[pesgores]

You guys really think zombies will attack you in real life?

[Tzan]

Wow that zombie video was great!

[IVhorseman]

You guys really think zombies will attack you in real life?

no, but i'm not getting caught with my pants down if/when it happens

[pesgores]

Considering zombies will really attack us...

If you aren't an adult, then how could you buy a weapon, huh?

Use the neighbours'.

[King of Brix]

If it was a zombie-pocalypse, I highly doubt that the weapons owners would care about how old you were, before selling you a weapon with which you were to be defending your life.

[IVhorseman]

Considering zombies will really attack us...

If you aren't an adult, then how could you buy a weapon, huh?

Use the neighbours'.

i already have a trench shovel, which is my ideal melee weapon. as for a gun, see Tzan's comment. also, i'm an adult in a month and a half. so there's that.

[Airpi]

The amount of votes for My Little penises disappoints me.

So we've got a good argument going on here, but one thing has been overlooked. The greatest weapon against the zombie menace is preparation. If you own an easily fortified building reasonably far from human settlement, then your only enemies are hunger and boredom. And we've been solving those problems for thousands of years.