occupy wall street.

[Ross_Varn]

I knew if I waited long enough someone would show up who thought nobody else caught the joke.

[Arkbrik]

They will be occupying Sweden on, yes you guessed it, the 5th of November. Sadly/fortunately I will be at Camelot then so I will miss the downfall of society as we know it.

[Ross_Varn]

Occupying Charleston tomorrow, in fact.

[url]Attorney William Hamilton, who is providing legal advice for Occupy Charleston, invited Rawl to be a speaker and facilitator for a "Shock Doctrine Seminar" at 11 a.m. Thursday at the park.

"I read a pretty good bit so I thought I would talk about some different economic theories and how they impact on the economy we are going through now," Rawl said.[/url]

...What is this, even? It's not an uprising, it's a peaceful protest. All I can see is people wanting something for nothing, and that's not even how ancient barter systems work.

[morganm]

I haven't followed this very closely... here's what I see on TV and hear on radio.


Q) Why are you here?

A) Dude, the system is broken!
A) We need jobs!
A) Education should be "free".
A) Corporations/businesses/banks are evil maaaaaan!
A) Healthcare is a RIGHT!
A) Save the wales!
A) We speak for the other 99%!




Q) What system is broken?

A) The economy/capitalism!




Q) What should replace it?

A) Communism
A) Anarchy
A) Primitive-ism (they explained it would be like hunter, gatherer, sustenance farming)




There was one guy interviewed on a radio program who was some sort of spokesperson for 'the movement'. He was actually rather convincing as he eloquently described basically the same thing.... 'we want something for nothing and all we have to do is make those with money pay for it all'.

Are these really the people and goals of this 'movement'?
Are these just useful idiots out doing the bidding of some other group?
Is there a most sinister conspiracy afoot?

I really don't know... like I said... I haven't researched this. I do find it interesting what Natalya explained. Those are actually very specific objectives I've not heard any of the occutards talk about when interviewed on TV or radio. Tend not to put much weight in what Pitogg explained because I'm not much of a conspiracy theory guy.

[Keldoclock]

They're a mob of disorganized whiners.


Seriously. I see them. Every. Day.


Annoying bastards.

[piltogg]

oh well obviously they are just useful idiots! How many people out there on the streets right now actually know why the fuck they are out there? Probably very very few. As is always the case with every political movement like this throughout the entirety of history, there were about ten smart people who got together, and used manipulation to get a bunch of common dumbasses to go do whatever they said to do, and then those dumbasses attracted more dumbasses and eventually there was just one big hoard of idiots standing around doing nothing because they are sheep and that's what they do. In this case, the mob hasn't been told what to do, so border-intelligence types are trying to come up with reasons. But nothing is going to change until hyper-intelligence types step in and tell people what to do.

ever seen a hypnotist perform? it's a lot like that, only rather than thinking "this person has magic hypnosis powers" you think "holy fuck, this person isn't even a human." normal people are like meat-bags who just do what you say because their minds are too small to do anything else. Note that this only works in person, so pamphlets and online and TV won't be good enough.

this is pretty much the point of illuminism. Transcending the brainless meat-bag form of existence, (which most people don't even realize they are in) and becoming a god(symbolically, not literally)

So yeah, hyper elitism at it's finest. Much like Nazism.

[Natalya]

Piltogg sometimes I think you're intelligent while other times I think you are apathetic and paranoid. This time is one of the later.

[Robot Monkey]

Occupy wall street? Screw that, occupy the White House! Show that dumbass what to do!

[Ross_Varn]

oh well obviously they are just useful idiots!

...I'm not even going to read the rest of this post. You have no idea what is going on, and if you did, you would profess that you didn't anyway. Cheers.

[stubby]

I feel like Piltogg is the guy I would be if I was 19 with internet access and had a lot more free time. If Piltogg didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent him. I'm glad he can take care off all the conspiracizing I don't have time for.

[Predator]

Piltogg sometimes I think you're intelligent while other times I think you are apathetic and paranoid. This time is one of the later.

[stubby]

http://www.capitalinstitute.org/blog/li ... all-street

[Tzan]

Thanks, that guy seems well informed and reasonable.

[morganm]

I would put that article right with the guy I heard on the radio.... eloquently advocating the same thing the people on the street are shouting about. At least the dudes out there on the street are being open and honest when asked.

The people I'm worried about are these silver tongue snakes dressing up their marxist ideology as something 'new' and hoping to draw more useful idiots into their 'movement'. However you can see through their guise when they admit where their 'new ideas' manifest from.... William Blake, Schumacher (E. F. Schumacher), Herman Daly, John Keynes (identified in the comments section and links to a marxist website as reference), and Karl Marx.

[stubby]

The people I worry about are the silver-tongued snakes dressing up their anti-marxist ideology as something different than what led us to the same situation in 1928. We should totally be able to snuggle you financially and destroy your most basic ability to survive BECAUSE OTHERWISE MARXISM.