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Boston Marathon

Postby pkbrennan » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:21 pm

We know the events of today.

I am at least relieved to report that my many friends in Boston are all safe and accounted for.

Thoughts are with the injured and bereaved.
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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby Bragallot » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:22 pm

I hope society reacts in the way it should (remain mostly unaffected) and not the way the terrorists want us to (become (even) more paranoid). The terrorists want us to be afraid to leave our homes or attend mass meetings (which have become kind of defining for our culture). Let them believe it if they have to. They'll never have sufficient means to hold all of society hostage, not on our ground. Unfortunately things like this do happen every day (just not in the West) but we can't force change on (in fact, that usually has an opposite effect) or police the entire world. Change must come from within. With every terrorist attack against events such as these, that are attended by many different people of different cultures, backgrounds and religions, the terrorists will lose support. If anything, the result of this senseless attack on all of humanity should be a call-up for more solidarity between the well-meaning people of the world. It's easy to fall into the 'outsiders are attacking us, all outsiders are bad' pitfall, especially if someone or something dear to us gets struck, but we mustn't forget that people all over the world are facing the same kinds of evil everywhere and falling into this trap is exactly what will lead to more conflict in the future, which is the definition of true terror.

Here's to (vainly) hoping everyone's thoughts will be with the victims and not how to use the event to push their own (political) agenda.
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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby Natalya » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:46 pm

This is horrible. :(
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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby Silverdream » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:07 pm

Bragallot wrote:I hope society reacts in the way it should (remain ùpstmy unaffected) and not the way the terrorists want us to (become (even) more paranoid). The terrorists want us to be afraid to leave our homes or attend mass meetings (which have become kind of defining for our culture). Let them believe it if they have to. They'll never have sufficient means to hold all of society hostage, not on our ground. Unfortunately things like this do happen every day (just not in the West) but we can't force change on (in fact, that usually has an opposite effect) or police the entire world. Change must come from within. With every terrorist attack against events such as these, that are attended by many different people of different cultures, backgrounds and religions, the terrorists will lose support. If anything, the result of this senseless attack on all of humanity should be a call-up for more solidarity between the well-meaning people of the world. It's easy to fall into the 'outsiders are attacking us, all outsiders are bad' pitfall, especially if someone or something dear to us gets struck, but we mustn't forget that people all over the world are facing the same kinds of evil everywhere and falling into this trap is exactly what will lead to more conflict in the future, which is the definition of true terror.

Here's to (vainly) hoping everyone's thoughts will be with the victims and not how to use the event to push their own (political) agenda.


Well said.
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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby Natalya » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:51 pm

It's like the Boston Massacre except worse.
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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby Bluefog » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:48 am

I've never understood why people/groups think that a bomb is a good way to get their point across. Any organization that targets innocent people will never gain my respect or support. It's like "Oh I have some radical point of view, you know what I'm going to do? Blow a bunch of people up and destroy families. This is a good way to get people to join my cause." Yeah fucking right!! I dunno. People are stupid.
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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby Keldoclock » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:49 am

I saw this on the news and my overall reaction was "eh, i've seen worse"
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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby Silverdream » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:16 am

Keldoclock wrote:I saw this on the news and my overall reaction was "eh, i've seen worse"


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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby Bragallot » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:33 am

Bluefog wrote:I've never understood why people/groups think that a bomb is a good way to get their point across. Any organization that targets innocent people will never gain my respect or support. It's like "Oh I have some radical point of view, you know what I'm going to do? Blow a bunch of people up and destroy families. This is a good way to get people to join my cause." Yeah fucking right!! I dunno. People are stupid.


To be honest, that's probably how they see 'our' invasions of 'their' homelands, too. The thing a lot of people often forget / don't seem to realize fully is that violence only breeds more violence. People (can) kinda lose sight of reason when someone is taken away from them for no reason. That's generally how it spreads. As to why they think it's a good idea to use bombs, I suppose they prefer obedience through fear over consensual obedience, because (if we're talking muslim extremists here) their viewpoints are so unworldly and restrictive you can hardly expect people to put up with them willingly unless they've been conditioned since birth.
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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby Quantumsurfer » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:56 pm

Wait, I thought they determined it was an act of domestic terrorism.
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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby Tzan » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:16 pm

Yes I'm fine, thanks for asking... :roll:
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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby pkbrennan » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:52 am

I think all evidence so far is pointing to right wing domestic terrorism, but the verdict is not in yet.

And oh, Tzan, it is good to know you're fine. I just didn't realise you was in beantown...
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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby Tzan » Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:50 am

We don't call it beantown.

If anything it should be called Molassestown

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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby Theblackdog » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:39 pm

Not sure there's much evidence to speak of, just conjecture. We know what kind of bomb was used, but those bombs are common among terrorists of pretty much every stripe.
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Re: Boston Marathon

Postby IVhorseman » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:42 pm

Anti-American terrorists tend to attack symbols of American power, like the Pentagon (military) and WTC (economic). Domestic terrorists are more likely to target soft targets that represent multi-culturalism, like sporting events where Kenyans and Ethiopians tend to win. Could be some tea-party nut-job, especially considering that it's a Boston (like the original tea party) event promoting brotherhood to all nations.
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