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Re: Gaime of Therones

Postby IVhorseman » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:25 pm

So did anyone else laugh their ass off when Joffery started talking shit on Tywin to his face?
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Re: Gaime of Therones

Postby Silverdream » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:40 pm

I laughed my ass off when Sandor was like "Let me know in advance next time you stab a man to death."

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Re: Gaime of Therones

Postby Bragallot » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:56 pm

IVhorseman wrote:So did anyone else laugh their ass off when Joffery started talking shit on Tywin to his face?


It's funny whenever Charles Dance uhh Tywin puts Joffrey in his place. That brat really is so freakin useless, I can't think of one redeeming quality or thing he's good at other than being a little arsehead.
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Re: Gaime of Therones

Postby IVhorseman » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:06 pm

Well he's certainly good at acting. It's got to be HARD to be that hateable.

Have you noticed how he never makes eye contact with anyone? ESPECIALLY when he's shouting about how he's the king. It's subtle, but just in the way he looks around the room to make it look like he's badass, when in reality he has no idea what the fuck he is doing and everyone knows it but him. He's so weak he won't even look at someone when he's talking to them unless he's threatening to kill them. It's got to be tough to pull off acting like such a bratty little shit head, and I totally respect that. Especially how well he does it.
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Re: Gaime of Therones

Postby Silverdream » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:23 pm

Also how he is both ridiculous and somewhat frightening when angry.
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Re: Gaime of Therones

Postby Bragallot » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:37 pm

IVhorseman wrote:Well he's certainly good at acting. It's got to be HARD to be that hateable.

Have you noticed how he never makes eye contact with anyone? ESPECIALLY when he's shouting about how he's the king. It's subtle, but just in the way he looks around the room to make it look like he's badass, when in reality he has no idea what the fuck he is doing and everyone knows it but him. He's so weak he won't even look at someone when he's talking to them unless he's threatening to kill them. It's got to be tough to pull off acting like such a bratty little shit head, and I totally respect that. Especially how well he does it.


Yeah I have nothing bad to say about the actor, just the character.
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Re: Gaime of Therones

Postby lorbaat » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:48 pm

Silverdream wrote:Also how he is both ridiculous and somewhat frightening when angry.



It's terrifying because he's a bratty little punk with the absolute power to decide you should die. Very few people would have Tywin to intercede.

It's like the Queen in Blackadder 3, or Heath Ledger's Joker. The power of life and death with no reason. Utterly chilling.
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Re: Gaime of Therones

Postby Bragallot » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:01 pm

lorbaat wrote:It's like the Queen in Blackadder 3


2, I think.
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Re: Gaime of Therones

Postby lorbaat » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:45 am

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2, I think.


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Re: Gaime of Therones

Postby Bragallot » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:26 pm

The show has tried hard and has succeeded in making everyone hate him, but it's nigh impossible to capture how bad Joffrey really is. Maybe if they included the parts where Joffrey has Baratheon supporters with antlers nailed to their heads flung from trebuchets, answers hungry people's pleas for food with a crossbow volley, 'leads' a charge against another group of hungry people, how he shoots a cult with his crossbow and leaves it dying while letting hares escape all over the castle (it was the hares we was aiming at) and the story about how he cut open a pregnant cult and showed the cults inside to Robert... I'm probably forgetting a few things.

On another note, I can't believe what they're doing to Stannis. They're really, no, they have really destroyed his character and just turned him into some archetypal villain.
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Re: Gaime of Therones

Postby IVhorseman » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:59 pm

Stannis isn't a villain, he just thinks with his cock is all. He'll do anything Mellisandre says.

All of those terrible joffery things are pretty implied. On the one hand nobody's explicitly stating it, but on the other I think everybody assumes that he goes around killing kitties in his spare time. That doesn't sound like much of a stretch, really.
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Re: Gaime of Therones

Postby Bragallot » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:32 am

Well, I suppose it isn't, because he does stuff like that. Just goes to show of how little consequence he is that he has to do those things to keep himself amused during a war :)

See, this is another view derived from the show, that isn't like that in the books and just makes Stannis look worse. On the subject of sacrificing Edric (who is replaced by Gendry in the show), he keeps opposing Melisandre (as the only person who is not willing to burn Edric) and even asks her 'is there no other way?' and tells her 'if you lie to me, I'll have you killed slowly.' That's how opposed he is to killing Edric, and how little in thrall to Melisandre (who is also far worse on the show) he is in the books.
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