It seems I missed and interesting argument here, so let me pipe in a bit:
samuelzz10 wrote:With no classic rock, there would be no metal.
Wrong. All metal is derived in one way or another from Black Sabbath. All bands that claim to not be influenced by them are not metal. Black Sabbath was an accumulation of many different genres, including Soul, Blues, and Jazz, but not Classic Rock, because they came about before Classic Rock was a thing.
Silverdream wrote:Anyways, the main point of this is that rock is not metal. Rock and roll is not metal. Classic rock is not metal. Metal is metal. Rock is rock. Metal is not rock. They are different things.
Yes and no. Metal is a subgenre of Rock, but Rock is not Metal. Classic Rock is definitely not Metal and neither is Rock and Roll.
samuelzz10 wrote:It would now be more like Kiss, Van Halen, Guns and Roses, and Joan Jett, all of them have at least once flown close to metal if not into metal itself.
Silverdream wrote:Joan Jett isn't metal, KISS isn't metal (But Paul Stanley's song Live to Win could be considered metal), Guns and Roses isn't metal and Van Halen isn't metal.
Technically, Kiss, Van Halen, and Guns N Roses are not metal, but people like to classify them under the Glam Metal category, which, to be fair, they are. To me though, Glam Metal is not Metal although they share the same name. Glam Metal was basically pop music, while bands like Metallica and Slayer carried the torch of real Metal underground until their rise in the early nineties. So, I can see where young Sam got confused here, but adding Joan Jett to that list is a little baffling.